TRS19
- cyberdonblue
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Re: TRS19
I was at the head of the field when T:ANE came over the horizon. I couldn't wait to get my hands on it; that's why I volunteered for beta testing. It sounded heavenly. With all the goodies that were promised to come with it I was like a kid waiting for Christmas. Slowly, bit by bit, the goodies were pushed back "for release a little later." Then when T:ANE was released, as we all know, it was a mess - and, sadly, we all know how that dragged on.
OK so Trainz 2019 appears to do most of the things it's supposed to do thus far, but most of the reviewers on YouTube have not exactly raved about it. The element of 5/6 of the content being held back (as Tony stated) smacks a little bit of a disasterous T:ANE release in some ways and a certain desperation to get a new product onto the market ASAP - despite T:ANE not having been smoothed out properly and satisfactorily.
Much of the rhetoric I am hearing and reading at the moment sounds very similar to the early days of T:ANE. Yes, I know it's early days and there are teething problems with most software upon release but I can't help sinking into a feeling of de ja vue. The questions and the answers sound so familiar that they all take me back to those painful early days of T:ANE. I have to give N3V 10 out of 10 for "Talking the talk," now if only they could "Walk the walk,"...
I know I'm a miserable old moaning so and so but somebody please tell me it's not just me. Reassure me that, once again, the product hasn't managed to come close to the hype - or have I just learned a hard lesson and now want to wait till Trainz 2019 reaches "the standard" before even considering dipping a toe in the water.
Cheers
Dave
OK so Trainz 2019 appears to do most of the things it's supposed to do thus far, but most of the reviewers on YouTube have not exactly raved about it. The element of 5/6 of the content being held back (as Tony stated) smacks a little bit of a disasterous T:ANE release in some ways and a certain desperation to get a new product onto the market ASAP - despite T:ANE not having been smoothed out properly and satisfactorily.
Much of the rhetoric I am hearing and reading at the moment sounds very similar to the early days of T:ANE. Yes, I know it's early days and there are teething problems with most software upon release but I can't help sinking into a feeling of de ja vue. The questions and the answers sound so familiar that they all take me back to those painful early days of T:ANE. I have to give N3V 10 out of 10 for "Talking the talk," now if only they could "Walk the walk,"...
I know I'm a miserable old moaning so and so but somebody please tell me it's not just me. Reassure me that, once again, the product hasn't managed to come close to the hype - or have I just learned a hard lesson and now want to wait till Trainz 2019 reaches "the standard" before even considering dipping a toe in the water.
Cheers
Dave
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Re: TRS19
I'm largely in agreement with you, cyberdonblue, apart from the moaning old so & so part!
Don't get me wrong, I would like to have TRS2019 but not whilst it's in the early stages of testing, as it still seems to be currently and certainly not at the pricing regimes currently in place! Hopefully it will come out on offer, perhaps next year but if not then ce la vie, it's not that important to me, life still goes on! Next year, 2019, my daughter and her family, are moving back to UK from Dubai permanently, my grandkids will be my future priority!
Rob.
Don't get me wrong, I would like to have TRS2019 but not whilst it's in the early stages of testing, as it still seems to be currently and certainly not at the pricing regimes currently in place! Hopefully it will come out on offer, perhaps next year but if not then ce la vie, it's not that important to me, life still goes on! Next year, 2019, my daughter and her family, are moving back to UK from Dubai permanently, my grandkids will be my future priority!
Rob.
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Re: TRS19
Oh I still have my critic's hat on, getting to the first tunnel that needs replacing (old Auran style) brings forth the usual headache of matching a portal to the pipe and finding the dighole removes half the cliff face above. But I *do* like the new (post lighting adjustment) appearance. As others have said elsewhere though, really what TANE should have been but it has taken 4 years and another 50 quid to reach that stage!
Oh and confirmation for Tony. Even on the much more powerful desktop PC, trying to open a route and edit or create a session while downloading extensively in CMP is battling for resources. In this case the route failed to load properly and now frozen on the environmental pop up. Multi tasking not recommended therefore!
Oh and confirmation for Tony. Even on the much more powerful desktop PC, trying to open a route and edit or create a session while downloading extensively in CMP is battling for resources. In this case the route failed to load properly and now frozen on the environmental pop up. Multi tasking not recommended therefore!
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Re: TRS19
No it's not just you Dave, I'm a miserable old moaning so & so as wellcyberdonblue wrote:
I know I'm a miserable old moaning so and so but somebody please tell me it's not just me.
Cheers
Dave
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- cyberdonblue
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Re: TRS19
Thank you Blackwatch, I'll sleep easy tonight knowing I'm not alone in the Worldblackwatch13 wrote:No it's not just you Dave, I'm a miserable old moaning so & so as well
Cheers
Dave
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Re: TRS19
Where on the Plan scale does the finishing of T:ANE sit exactly? You know, the one we paid for in 2015 that still has annoyances.thilliam wrote:So, that's why Plan A is release the best version of Trainz that we can for 2018.
Shouldn't that be Plan A? Or is that not important now that you've already had our money for that?
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Re: TRS19
I'm called a lot worse usually. Far too crude to post here.blackwatch13 wrote:No it's not just you Dave, I'm a miserable old moaning so & so as wellcyberdonblue wrote:
I know I'm a miserable old moaning so and so but somebody please tell me it's not just me.
Cheers
Dave
A young volunteer at our place who's been away for a while said recently to one of the others, in relation to me, that "he's not as grumpy as I remember him."
- cyberdonblue
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Re: TRS19
I'm beginning to feel that I'm actually quite carefree and relaxedPFX wrote:...A young volunteer at our place who's been away for a while said recently to one of the others, in relation to me, that "he's not as grumpy as I remember him."
Some of these poor younger ones don't realise the scale of the trials and tribulations they've yet to face. Oh to be so fresh and naive again
Cheers
Dave
PS. I don't think you're grumpy at all Innis
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Re: TRS19
Quite, and a very accurate description of all the hype surrounding Trainz 2019PFX wrote: B****cks!!! ...
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Dave
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Re: TRS19
I stopped taking any notice of hype years ago, nothing anywhere ever does fully what its claimed it does so I don't expect it to ;o)
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Re: TRS19
Apart from payment web pages. It's always rather coincidental that payment pages always work as expected and never need service packs or updates to work.clam1952 wrote:I stopped taking any notice of hype years ago, nothing anywhere ever does fully what its claimed it does so I don't expect it to ;o)
Wouldn't it be great if payment pages were synced to a product's development so that when the payment page detects that a product is only 75% complete, it only charges 75% of the price.
I bet a product would work "out of the box" the day that law is ever introduced
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Re: TRS19
Apologies if this already mentioned, but just took my first foray into 1930's Cornish Main Line, to find at least two of the stations displaying modern (1970's) BR signage including the double arrow logo. Given this has been lauded as one of the centrepieces in this £55 software package, I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry but contented myself with a hoot of derision...
Happy Christmas.
Happy Christmas.
- cyberdonblue
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Re: TRS19
It doesn't surprise me, Vern. I think they're so desperate to convince us all to buy Train 2019 (I absolutely hate using the title "Railroad") that they've forgotten what it's all about. Am I the only one who, just lately, dumps the so-called newsletter straight into the deleted section of the emails? There is not one ounce of news in them anymore, just a continuous stream of "our best ever version of Trainz" and why haven't you bought it yet? Give us your money. Well, Tony, whilst I feel mightily aggrieved that once again N3V are moving on without finishing what they started in T:ANE, I might have been tempted to dip a toe in the water if you hadn't tried to turn your new toy into a cash cow. The overall approach of N3V has been antagonistic for a while now but, for me personally, this was the proverbial "bridge too far."
Anyway, after my bah-humbug , Merry Christmas everybody
Cheers
Dave
Anyway, after my bah-humbug , Merry Christmas everybody
Cheers
Dave