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 Post subject: Re: Class 395?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:35 am 
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I wish I was masterchief tmz! (his models are way better than anything I've made from scratch!) Maybe I should of said when I first published the 303 for trainz, and I put the source files up so someone like yourself could improve it. Also I think the APT is a good idea too, nice bit of railway history.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:03 am 
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I've got the driving car into the Sim and it's over scale :(

Luckily those masters of the Pdf over on the Barrowmore website have uploaded the EMU diagram book with all the lovely APT car diagrams in :D

EDIT :

The resize went fairly well though there are large parts of the original mesh that are the wrong shape when compared to the official diagram for the DTS .
I've lowered the windscreen and shortened how far the lower fairing goes back before the start of the first bogie well , Thats produced the slight bulge under the drivers side window . That will be tackled tomorrow .
The shape of the roof is wrong as it should be flatter, so that's another job .
But at least the shell is now the correct width and length :D

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Only another 3 cars to resize to match this one :shock:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:23 am 
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One thing I have found is that the power cars are 4000hp each.

Set numbers worn were 370001-7, the latter was a cut down set.

I'm looking forward to re-enacting the high speed APT coasting trials on the ECML in the 1980s :) I've still got the magazine article so can use the right class 37s for the job :) :)

Great looking APT conversion Dave, you're doing a grand job on these- something that's been needed in Trainz for ages.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:28 am 
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Redmanb11 wrote:
I wish I was masterchief tmz! (his models are way better than anything I've made from scratch!) Maybe I should of said when I first published the 303 for trainz, and I put the source files up so someone like yourself could improve it. Also I think the APT is a good idea too, nice bit of railway history.


Cheers for the clarification, that means i can credit the config correctly.

The 303 won't be as quick as Dave churning out these excellent meshes :)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:53 am 
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Dave,
I have sent you the email containing the Class 380.

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 Post subject: Re: Class 395?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:14 am 
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@Dave- If you're needing phototextures for the 380, help yourself to mine from that 450 reskin. If these are any use to you feel free to use them.

EDIT- I've found a diagram of the power car which shows an pantograph anti-tilt device fitted which suggests the power cars tilted but the pantograph didn't! Apologies for any confusion caused :oops:

I've amended all my posts appropriately.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:08 am 
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The power cars are certainly at a different angle to the rest of the train in this picture: http://www.springhill.f9.co.uk/apt_tests/apt20005.jpg

Bear in mind that the power cars are in the middle of the set.

EDIT: Never mind, see TMZ06003's post above.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:18 am 
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Dean_Forest wrote:
The power cars are certainly at a different angle to the rest of the train in this picture: http://www.springhill.f9.co.uk/apt_tests/apt20005.jpg

Bear in mind that the power cars are in the middle of the set.


What you may be seeing there is one of the main problems they had, the tilting mechanism didn't
always work correctly, it was one of the reasons that the project was terminated.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:41 pm 
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The powercars tilted the same as the train . The pantograph was fixed to a separate moving table that was interlinked to the bogie's to ensure that it remained vertical and centred underneath the catenary whilst the powercar body tilted .

There's a similar system on the pendolino but the plate is motor driven and runs on wheels along curved rails fixed to the roof : http://i.imgur.com/cQiYL.jpg

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:52 pm 
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tmz06003 wrote:
@Dave- If you're needing phototextures for the 380, help yourself to mine from that 450 reskin. If these are any use to you feel free to use them.

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Hi tmz,
I don't think we will need phototextures, as my model has everything textured up and rendered. However seeing as I have got Dave to help me with it, he will have a say too. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:00 pm 
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Can I ask, will the 395's get SouthEastern Logo's?
(And also, how's your 465 coming along Nexus?)

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 Post subject: Re: Class 395?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:15 pm 
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I've had a quick look at the cdp that you sent me but it's only textures and a config file , I can't do anything with that ?!
Going on what is stated in the config that the 380 is about 950,000 poly's then you wont be able to email me it as it will be too big an attachment for an Email (my service provider limit is 20 MB) .

I'll have to download it from Sketchup Warehouse and start from scratch .

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The 2ND car was a lot easier to work on than the driving car .
The driving car has had it's side windows and grills moved to the correct places in relation to the BR official diagram .
The unit is currently riding on accommodation bogie's until I can build some replacements .
So that's 2 down 2 to go plus a conversion of an intermediate car to the Restaurant Buffet car .

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:42 pm 
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Could you send it to me when you're done so I can release it. if that's okay?

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Why? He did lots of work with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Class 395?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:51 pm 
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It's my train, I am the one who converted it and sent it to him. Some how it got mucked up, so he has kindly decided to invest his time and effort to help me rebuild it. I am just asking for at least partial credit.

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