cyberdonblue wrote:Unfortunately, the press and the former Blairites are doing their best to undermine Corbyn and, indirectly, the Labour Party itself at the moment so the outcome of ANY election is highly unpredictable right now IMHO. It's currently turmoil all round which, to my mind, says that none of these idiots made any serious contingency plans for the current situation. That's how cocky and confident they were of railroading (no pun intended) the people of this country into blindly accepting the establishment's argument.
These former Blairites should be taught a lesson too. Blair should be in prison for what he got up to. And his mates ought to remember Corbyn was elected to his position by a massive majority, but these lunatics won't accept the will of the people - just like most elitist politicians. They hate to think that we can all think for ourselves. I hope the party and the public remember them when an election appears on the horizon.
My advice, for the time being, would be to wait, watch and listen. Let the dust settle and then decide which direction you want to follow.
Dave
Labour MPs never wanted Corbyn from day one - so this EU referendum was the perfect excuse for them to try to boot him out. Its was Labour supporters that voted him in because they felt the party had gone too far to the right and become Tory-lite under Blair and Brown.
Its daft that Labour could have the embarrassing situation where their 8 allegedly unhappy MPs could submit a vote of no confidence on Monday, which triggers a discussion and potentially a secret ballot on Tuesday - which would then trigger a leadership vote where Corbyn could then win back leadership in that vote if Labour supporters choose him again.
How awkward and embarrassing would that be for Labour MPs then?
The Tories are in a mess too now. There's a clear split between them - and they now also have to find a leader. That's likely to be between Osborne, who most of the population despise (even Tory voters), Boris (who many people accept is a very clever and powerful man hiding behind a cleverly played unkempt buffoon image so that he appeals to the gullible and the media who love his theatrics) - or Theresa May - who was all for the EU and won't like the circumstances in which she'd have to work (having to wind down the UK towards coming out of the EU to enforce Article 50).
Maybe, just maybe, this will finally make politicians realise that the public are now becoming sick to death of their self-serving, carry-on-regardless ways (and that applies to MPs across all parties - not just Tory and Labour).
The only way of restoring any credibility back to British politics at the moment , in my opinion, is to scrap first past the post (which always results in either a Tory or Labour government) and introduce proportional representation (so that ALL parties get a fair opportunity and the chance to get into government - even the smaller parties such as Greens, UKIP and arguably even the Lib-Dems now) - then call a general election so that we can start from the very beginning all over again.