YouTube BR Sectorisation era Videos
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YouTube BR Sectorisation era Videos
A thread for users to post links to YouTube videos featuring the BR Sectorisation era (83-96) that they may come across .
(just that era , not steam etc. if you want to post anything else go start another thread !!)
MrDeltic15 has a huge amount of videos from the era :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC976FP ... dYQhQvZufw
Trains In The 1990's Rugby, 11th July 1994
Avocet1989 has a lot of ECML videos from the era :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChV5h7 ... Xsb3GwiGjA
91001 on test August 1988
Video125 Valenta fitted HST at Bath :
(just that era , not steam etc. if you want to post anything else go start another thread !!)
MrDeltic15 has a huge amount of videos from the era :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC976FP ... dYQhQvZufw
Trains In The 1990's Rugby, 11th July 1994
Avocet1989 has a lot of ECML videos from the era :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChV5h7 ... Xsb3GwiGjA
91001 on test August 1988
Video125 Valenta fitted HST at Bath :
High visibility pixels must be worn when on or about the line !!
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Re: YouTube BR Sectorisation era Videos
Thanks Dave!
Right up my street - those were my old spotting years as a teenager.
Enjoyed those - especially the Rugby one. Spent many a weekend at Rugby. The station where it was always windy and freezing cold whatever the time of year!
Nice seeing the 310's again! Used to love those.
Nice to see the NSE 308's too. I think that was around the time there were a handful of NYPTE "Metro Train" 308's and Clacton 309's too when the 323's were having teething problems during introduction.
Can't believe that was 21 years ago. Scary! Seems like yesterday!
Right up my street - those were my old spotting years as a teenager.
Enjoyed those - especially the Rugby one. Spent many a weekend at Rugby. The station where it was always windy and freezing cold whatever the time of year!
Nice seeing the 310's again! Used to love those.
Nice to see the NSE 308's too. I think that was around the time there were a handful of NYPTE "Metro Train" 308's and Clacton 309's too when the 323's were having teething problems during introduction.
Can't believe that was 21 years ago. Scary! Seems like yesterday!
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Re: YouTube BR Sectorisation era Videos
A lot of memories there, Dave. Particularly poignant, for me anyway, was the 3 car 310. That set was a bit of a mish mash of stock following the terrible collision at Stafford which resulted in the death of a very good friend of mine, Phil Sutton.
He was returning ECS from Stoke to Soho DED late at night and was brought to a stand on the mainline outside the north end of Stafford station. There was a mail train standing in platform 3 - the route through which Phil needed to pass - and the signal on the south end of platform 3 was displaying a green aspect. What happened next has never been fully established but it is known that Phil was given "cats eyes" (or a calling on - proceed with caution being prepared to stop short of any obstruction; or in the old days, line clear, station or junction blocked.)
The rest is supposition. Phil had been working very long hours (as most of us with young families did in those days. It was the only way to keep your head above water.) The suggestion was that he was fighting tiredness. He took the signal and crossed from mainline line to slow line as planned. At some point by the signal box (north end) it is believed that Phil saw the green aspect at the south end of platform 3 and assumed the line was now clear and the green signal was for him. If true, he would have done what all of us would have done. Full power. He ran into the back of the mail train at about 35 mph. You don't survive collisions like that in a 310.
Why didn't he see the mail train? That's the $64,000 question that nobody has ever been able to answer.
Ironically, Phil died after having attended the funeral that very day of another one of our colleagues. He left the funeral and went straight to New Street to take on duty - for the very last time, as it turned out. Needless to say, the "calling on" move was banned at Stafford North after that and modifications were made to regulations regarding tail lamps and permissive lines. Too late for Phil. R.I.P.
I've got a vague memory that the set involved in the crash was 204, though I'm not certain, but I'm sure someone better informed than me could probably tell you more accurately.
(Sorry for hijacking your thread, Dave. I didn't set out to tell the story. It just happened.)
Dave
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He was returning ECS from Stoke to Soho DED late at night and was brought to a stand on the mainline outside the north end of Stafford station. There was a mail train standing in platform 3 - the route through which Phil needed to pass - and the signal on the south end of platform 3 was displaying a green aspect. What happened next has never been fully established but it is known that Phil was given "cats eyes" (or a calling on - proceed with caution being prepared to stop short of any obstruction; or in the old days, line clear, station or junction blocked.)
The rest is supposition. Phil had been working very long hours (as most of us with young families did in those days. It was the only way to keep your head above water.) The suggestion was that he was fighting tiredness. He took the signal and crossed from mainline line to slow line as planned. At some point by the signal box (north end) it is believed that Phil saw the green aspect at the south end of platform 3 and assumed the line was now clear and the green signal was for him. If true, he would have done what all of us would have done. Full power. He ran into the back of the mail train at about 35 mph. You don't survive collisions like that in a 310.
Why didn't he see the mail train? That's the $64,000 question that nobody has ever been able to answer.
Ironically, Phil died after having attended the funeral that very day of another one of our colleagues. He left the funeral and went straight to New Street to take on duty - for the very last time, as it turned out. Needless to say, the "calling on" move was banned at Stafford North after that and modifications were made to regulations regarding tail lamps and permissive lines. Too late for Phil. R.I.P.
I've got a vague memory that the set involved in the crash was 204, though I'm not certain, but I'm sure someone better informed than me could probably tell you more accurately.
(Sorry for hijacking your thread, Dave. I didn't set out to tell the story. It just happened.)
Dave
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Re: YouTube BR Sectorisation era Videos
Early Years of the Class 91's:
Baguley Fold Junction 1990:
LMR Electrics. 1991:
Baguley Fold Junction 1990:
LMR Electrics. 1991:
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Reading Station around the time I was born .
Being from Reading, despite all the Multiple units I create, I do have soft spot for HSTs, thumpers and especially duffs on NSE mk1s.
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Trains at London Euston November 1989
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ECML trains at Burton Coggles April 1989
(Includes 91+HST , West Highland mk1's , HST Pullman set etc.)
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ECML trains at Burton Coggles April 1989
(Includes 91+HST , West Highland mk1's , HST Pullman set etc.)
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Class 91s at work on the ECML May 1989
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Re: YouTube BR Sectorisation era Videos
Well, there's something you learn every day following the Class 91's 0n the ECML video. I never knew they paired up 91's with HST powercars in consists. I Never saw anything about that in the Rail press. Obviously there's good reasons for this but they escape me. Perhaps someone could enlighten us?
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The completion of the first part of the ECML electrification to Leeds was running early and the class 91's had started to be delivered from early 1988 but the production of the new mk4's was running late . To enable the early start up of electric services to Leeds (spring 1989) Intercity decided to Modify 8 HST sets with one power car being replaced by a class 91 and the remaining power car being modified with buffers , standard draw gear and the fitment of TDM equipment . The TGS (guards) coach was fitted with buffers and a drophead buckeye at the guards compartment end for coupling to the class 91 .
Initially the power car acted as standard DVT with its diesel engine being used to only power the auxiliaries (air con lighting etc.) on the train , but it was found that having the engine idling all the time was causing some problems , So they reinstated the power cars traction capabilities and created a 8,550 HP rocket on rails . Having both the class 91 and HST power car powering meant the train went like the proverbial off a shovel .
This stop gap setup only lasted for a few months from March 1989 up until sufficient Mk4 sets had been put into service .
Initially the power car acted as standard DVT with its diesel engine being used to only power the auxiliaries (air con lighting etc.) on the train , but it was found that having the engine idling all the time was causing some problems , So they reinstated the power cars traction capabilities and created a 8,550 HP rocket on rails . Having both the class 91 and HST power car powering meant the train went like the proverbial off a shovel .
This stop gap setup only lasted for a few months from March 1989 up until sufficient Mk4 sets had been put into service .
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That explains it, thanks for your expertise Dave.
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85031 passing Bescot in 1986 , All blue , Blue & Grey but note a few of the Mk1's have ScotRail logo's on their sides
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You certainly knew when you'd crossed those diamonds on an 85, Dave, I can assure you All those early sparklers could be terrifying at times. If you found a rough spot of track at 100mph you would literally leave your seat, travelling mostly in an upwards direction - but not always. More than one driver had to pick himself up off the floor (and I'm not exaggerating one bit.) Leaving New Street was often a trial of wills. Could you stay in your seat or would the engine throw you out? The good old days
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Norton Bridge :
Stafford station 1994 :
Stafford station 1994 :
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Cheers, Kenneth
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kenneth37043 aka Calder Depot. http://www.flickr.com/photos/calderdepot/ Also featuring screenshots from Trainz
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Excellent
ScotRail blue stripe mk2 on an awayday to the south coast at 1.07 onwards .
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